IF YOUR CHURCH IS DRIFTING AND STUCK, SHOULD YOU TRY TO CHANGE FROM WITHIN?

What do you do if you’re a frustrated support staff member of a visionless church?

Do you try to change things from within?

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Recently this question came to my inbox:

Hi Jonathan,

I was at the Youth Workers Retreat that you spoke at last weekend, and I had a follow up question for you. First of all, thanks so much for your honest words and practical advice. I had a lot of great takeaways from the retreat and really appreciate your perspective!

My husband is the youth director at a 100+ year old church, and I am his most faithful volunteer leader (whether by choice or not :). We’re also on the worship team and a part of an effort to grow the young adult population in our church (we’re both in our mid-twenties).

As many very established churches are, ours is an “insider” church full of church politics and stagnancy.

The building itself is in a rich mission-field, directly across the street from a very high-poverty inner-city high school, but most of our members don’t live in the community and are primarily middle- to upper-middle class, white, grew-up-in-the-church Christians (not much diversity).

We felt a strong call to become members of the church and for my husband to take the role of youth director a couple years ago. Probably the largest factor in that decision (and our decision to stay at the church since then) is our intention to try to make a change within the church.

We often feel like all of our energy spent in relation to our church is pushing and pulling the congregation to think and act less self-centeredly and more missionally.

My husband has been pushed in his job as youth director to focus more on making other church members happy than to focus on outreach.

It’s frustrating to say the least, and we consider leaving the church just about every week, to be quite honest!

After hearing everything you had to say about deciding who you’re willing to lose (Christians or non-Christians) and how in most circumstances, the only people that get mad about things in the church are other Christians, our feelings of “what are we doing here!?” are especially strong.

In your opinion, do you see any value in having a personal mission of trying to open the eyes of the insider, self-centered culture of an old church like ours…or are we just wasting our time?

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MY ANSWER:

Hey there!

Thank you for your email — I completely understand what you’re saying because my wife and I have been in your exact shoes!

Let me cut to the chase: In church-world, you can either resurrect the dead or birth a new baby.

Birthing a new baby is easier (that’s why my family sacrificed everything to start Life Church Michigan from scratch).

Any meaningful change within a church HAS to be birthed out of the heart of the senior pastor.

If the senior pastor is not the one leading the change, the change will not happen.

Period.

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Your job is to support the leadership of the lead PASTOR CALLED BY GOD TO LEAD AND LOVE YOUR CHURCH.

Hebrews 13:17 says,

Be responsive to your pastoral leaders. Listen to their counsel. They are alert to the condition of your lives and work under the strict supervision of God. Contribute to the joy of their leadership, not its drudgery. Why would you want to make things harder for them?

My advice?

If you cannot 110% support and champion the vision of the senior pastor, quit.

Today.

Flip burgers for six months until God brings you to a church where you can completely champion the vision, love the senior pastor and have his back, and use your gifts to further the Kingdom through the local church.

Your job is NOT to create change from within. 

God did not appoint you as senior pastor.

I’ll take it a step further: even if your senior pastor were a Disney Villain, it is not your job to challenge him and try to hijack the church.

David was given the opportunity to kill King Saul and stage a coup d’etat, yet he didn’t:

For I said, ‘I will never harm the king— he is the Lord’s anointed one.

God will always honor leaders that can submit to authority and be in harmony with the church’s vision.

If you can’t do this at your current church, leave quickly and quietly

Don’t stick around for a paycheck (wrong heart motivation!).

God does not bless sin, but He does bless humility and patience.

He will direct your steps and it is ok to work at the local video store or pizza delivery for a season.  (I have literally done both in the past 15 years!).

At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, “How big is my God?”

Hope this advice helps!

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ABOUT JONATHAN HERRON 

I am the founding pastor of Life Church, the fastest-growing church in Michigan and 11th fastest-growing church in America

I am focused on strategic leadership and engaging teaching, all fueled by a gnawing passion for reaching people far from God

My unique ministry approach has been featured online in Time Magazine, USA Today, The Detroit News, MLive and The Washington Times. 

Married twenty-two years to my high school sweetheart, I have five children plus a wiener dog with a nervous bladder.

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Ministry Intern Orientation

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When a LEADER gets better, EVERYONE gets better.

That’s why I take our internship program at Life Church so seriously and passionately.

I love investing into emerging church leaders!


“These early Christians were ON FIRE with the conviction that they had become, through Christ, literally sons of God; they were PIONEERS of a new humanity, founders of a new Kingdom.

They still speak to us across the centuries. Perhaps if we believed what they believed, we might achieve what they achieved.”
— J.B. Phillips, 1947

For what it’s worth, here’s the most recent orientation sessions for our Ministry Interns…

- Matthew 16:18

- "You are the KRISTOS (Christ)"

- They believed to their core that Jesus was the Son of the living God!

- Luke 15 is the HEARTBEAT of Life Church

- Matthew 28 is not a Great SUGGESTION, it's the Great COMMISSION!

- Ezekiel 11

- Dichotomists vs Trichotomists

- Acts 1 = Pray

- Acts 2 = Spirit-empowered witnesses

- Acts 2:42

- Acts 2:46 & 4:32 = High Tech + High Touch

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I prefer the way I do evangelism to the way you don’t.
— D.L. Moody to his religious critics

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Narrow the Focus

- WHAT is the mission? Luke 15

- WHO is our mission field? The Lost, Let-Down & Looking.

- Our Vision: Reach the Lost at Any Cost!

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LIFE CYCLE of a CHURCH:

  • Healthy Things Grow

  • Growing Things Change

  • Changing Things Challenge

  • Challenging Things Drive Us Toward God

  • Trusting God Leads to Obedience

  • Obeying God Leads to Health

  • Healthy Things Grow...

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At Life Church, we think STEPS, not PROGRAMS!

- High Tech + High Touch

- Post-COVID World = Strengthen our High Touch

- Our role is to help people take next steps from Crowd to Christ to Core!

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Lifers are our CORE.

- What is a LIFER?

A Lifer is someone living out the 4 G's of Life Church:

1) GROWTH - I am committed to the GROWTH of my church by INVITING!

2) GROUPS - Watch your faith grow through investing in GROUP relationships with people who want to learn and grow with you.

3) GIFTS - Use your spiritual GIFTS and start volunteering right away -- see the immediate difference you can make by serving on a Team.

4) GENEROSITY - See God’s promises fulfilled through your GENEROSITY and take ownership in what God is doing through this ministry.

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Life Church STRUCTURE

- We are structured for SUCCESS!

- Jesus is the Senior Pastor (1 Peter 5)

- Lead Pastor is the Quarterback (1 Peter 5, Titus 1, 1 Timothy 3)

- Lead Pastor is accountable to Board of Directors

- Accounting Firm is accountable to Board of Directors

- Staff are accountable to Lead Pastor (1 Timothy 3, Titus 1)

- Ministry Interns are accountable to Staff (Paul - Timothy - Titus)

- Lifers are set-up for SUCCESS every Sunday by Staff and Interns (Ephesians 4, 1 Corinthians 12, Romans 12)

Process of moving Crowd to Christ to Core: Begin, Belong, Believe (think steps, not programs!)

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"Every heart with Christ is a missionary; every heart without Christ is a mission field." (Dick Hillis, missionary to Asia)


Dream Bigger

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One December evening the cry of ‘Fire!’ echoed through Thomas Edison’s plant.  Spontaneous combustion had broken out in the film room and within moments all the packing compounds, film and other flammable goods had gone up with a whoosh.

When the family couldn’t find Edison, they became concerned.
Was he safe? With all his assets going up in smoke, would his spirit be broken? He was 67, no age to begin anew.

Then they saw him in the plant yard, running toward the family.
‘Where’s Mom?’ he shouted. ‘Go get her! Tell her to get her friends!
They’ll never see a fire like this again!’

At 5:30 the next morning, when the fire was barely under control,
Thomas Edison called his employees together and announced: 
‘We’re rebuilding!’
 

One man was told to lease all the machine shops in the area.
Another, to obtain a wrecking crane from the Erie Railroad Company. Then, almost as an afterthought he added, 
‘Oh, by the way.  Anybody know where we can get some money?”

Later on he explained, ‘You can always make capital out of disaster.
We’ve just cleared out a bunch of old rubbish! 
We’ll build bigger and better on these ruins.’


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Whatever happened last year is now in the past. 

If you had a great 2020, great!  But if you had a rough 2020, it’s over and done. And if there’s anything we can learn from Edison in this New Year, it is that you do not have time to maintain past regrets.

This year, start fresh. 
Dream big. 
Stand back up and stretch your faith further.

That’s the beauty of following Christ: your vision is never too big for God! He forgives, He authors second acts, and He releases you from your past (see Romans 8:1).

Now be careful; don’t waste this fresh page. 
Don’t be obligated to ordinary. 
No one will ever follow you down the street if you’re carrying a banner that says, “Onward toward mediocrity.”

Instead, take risks.
Paint a big picture of what could be and should be.
And then do it.


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Every time the Wright Brothers would attempt to fly their plane, they would bring enough extra materials for multiple crashes.

Which means that every time they went out, 
they knew they would fail.
 

They would crash and rebuild.

And crash and rebuild. 

And that's why they took off.

If you dream big and work hard, you can do anything in this world.


3 Pastoral Thoughts on the Washington, D.C. Insurrection

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Like millions of Americans, I was flabbergasted and deeply saddened January 6th by the words and behaviors flying across social media sites and news programs.

The Washington Post had a heckuva lede in telling the story:


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Every person who cherishes their democratic freedoms should feel shaken today.

This is was not democracy in action; this was an attempted coup.

I say this as a pastor and a student of history.

For what it’s worth, here are 3 Pastoral Thoughts on the Washington, D.C. Insurrection:

  1. This is not our Home.

    Like Daniel, we are exiles. As C.S. Lewis once said, “We were made for Another World.”


    Waving Confederate flags, Jesus 2020 banners, and political signs to the cameras while forcefully desecrating a place of government cherished by millions is not how we will reach the world for Christ.

    ”Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save.
    Blessed are those whose help is from the God of Jacob,
    whose hope is in the LORD their God.”

    (Psalm 146: 3 + 5)


    What happened on January 6th makes self-professing Christians look crazier than Mike Tyson in a Spelling Bee.

    Gen Z was just handed yet another pitiful example of what happens when you mix politics with religion: you get politics. You want to know why the younger generation has stopped going to church? It’s because they’ve been to a church.


    There is a difference between making a point and making a difference. Wednesday’s actions did neither.

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2. Walk Away From Your Media Echo Chamber

With so many entertainment and news options offered by whomever we choose to follow on social media / radio / streaming news services, we now live in a time where we can self-isolate within a chosen media echo chamber.


False narratives are unhealthy (and ultimately are what led religious people to crucify Jesus!). Rhetoric is not just empty words; the Scriptures warn us over and over about how the tongues has the power of life and death.


"Do not call conspiracy all that this people calls conspiracy, and do not fear what they fear, nor be in dread. But the Lord of hosts, Him you shall honor as holy. Let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.”
(Isaiah 8:12-13)

Let’s choose our fears wisely.

The more you pursue an idol, the less it delivers and the more it demands.

Let’s choose conversation over condemnation.

Cancel Culture is not the Way of Jesus.

3. We Have More Work To Do in terms of Political Discipleship.

Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world, for if it was His servants would fight (John 18:36).


Peter struck out with sword, but Jesus said, "No more of this!" (Luke 22:49-51).


Love is:

• patient

• kind

• does not boast

• not arrogant

• not rude

• not irritable

• not resentful

• does not rejoice at wrongdoing

• bears all things

believes the best

(1 Corinthians 13)

As a pastor, I was disappointed seeing social media responses in the Insurrection’s aftermath from Christians: conspiracy theories, leaps of logic, trumpeting freedom of speech over loss of life.

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As a father of three African-American children, I cringed.

The ugliness of white privilege was emerging from within public, online posts from Christians.

The Facebook comments I was reading were coming from my own friends.

Please, please, pause and reflect before posting about any correlations with last summer’s racial tensions.

As Jesus pleaded with the Father, in your anger you know not what you are doing (posting).

Please consider taking some time to try and understand why your African-American and Muslim friends are seeing January 6th’s words and behaviors through a different lens.

We can all make room for more historical education and understanding and empathy in our lives.

Maintaining a posture of humility and teachability is a prerequisite for following Jesus.

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In closing, thank you for being open to hearing my thoughts.

I am not perfect.

I am not infallible.

By the grace of God, I am who I am today.

For my part, my door is always open for conversation and understanding.

In Christ, the best is yet to come!

 
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